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Thread: Operation Market Garden, 17th September 1944

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    Operation Market Garden, 17th September 1944

    "Hearing the roar of engines, I went outside and watched the spectacle, like snow falling; then I remembered, 'it doesn't snow in September'. I watched, as the drop continued, thinking, 'if only for once, I had the use of such airborne forces!' Then I dragged myself away, to organise the counter-attack forces". (German Commander, near a drop zone)

    "On one of the annual tours, a veteran described the fighting near the bridge to a subdued audience; someone asked him," you were outnumbered, out of ammunition and without possibility of relief - why did you continue fighting?" The veteran, with tears in his eyes replied, "Because they were my friends".

    Today we recall the brave and selfless attempt to lay an 'airborne carpet' across the Rhine bridges into Germany. The operation is typyfied by the outstanding courage of 2 Para and attached groups at Arnhem Bridge but from dropzone to withdrawl, from Eindhoven to Oosterbeek, from success to brutal defeat, both soldier and civilian, they were heroes all.

    We give our thanks and our respects to all involved.

    Utrinque Paratus.

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    Nice post stevie
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    Remembering the valiant and selfless actions of those involved in this series of vicious battles, over nine days in September. Their memory is eternal, as is our gratitude and respect.
    Utrinque Paratus.

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    One of the most inspiring military operations in recent history, carried out with courage and conviction by those airborne forces taking part. A real shame that 30 Corps was held back, maybe there good and valid reasons for that but it does make you wonder at the outcome had they been allowed to press on.

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    One of my all-time favourite computer games was based on Market Garden, and I must say that I vastly preferred to be on the 'other side' as it was practically impossible for the allies to win.
    The fact is that the British could not get their armour up the one road that was available to them, and it was childs play to knock them out one by one on the exposed road, the fields being low lying and boggy - impassable to tanks.
    No matter how well the airborne performed at the bridges or in the towns they could not hold out without armoured support.
    Monty admitted the blame was his - and rightly so in my humble opinion.
    With close air support they might have made it, but for some reason it wasnt available.
    But it is bloody easy to be wise after the event, eh?
    (and he didnt get to play the game on the pooter first)
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    There are several key issues that contributed to the difficulties faced by the Allied Forces, the pointless insistence that Browning's brigade HQ be on the first lift, using 38 gliders that could've been better used to allow the Airlanding units to arrive in one lift; the underestimation of the ability of German forces to organise and react in the swift manner that they did, ignoring the lessons of Normandy and the breakout; the inability of the commanders of the British armoured units to push, regardless of cost, toward the Rhine bridges, including the unbelievable habit of stopping at night; and, not least, the RAF air commander's insistence that the DZs were so far from the objectives. This has been kicked around by numerous authors but to my judgement these form the core issues.

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    The fact that the entire allied plans fell into German hands on Day 1 didnt help much either.
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    Ooops! Let's go back to Honoured Memory: Hats off to all those courageous airborne troops and to many in the local population who stood with us (giving much needed support in terms of medical help and accommodation for the wounded). To those who fought and in many cases died - We Will Remember You.
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    Jed, fair point. It's just a NIVA thing, digression. We meant well.

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    Oh, I know that Stevie - I'm guilty of it myself and it was my tail end remark that started the strategic discussion (unintentionally). It's just the way things go sometimes and I wasn't being critical, only a bit tongue in cheek.
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